The Third Eve

Dream Analysis: The Sphinx

October 24, 2007 · 21 Comments

A few weeks ago, I wrote about peacemaking and touched on a conflict I’d had with a loved one. Though the situation was resolved in the conscious realm, it wasn’t resolved in my personal unconscious. Like many (if not most) conflicts, the conflict arose out of the deep ore of our respective undergrounds.

The encounter with my loved one generated a lot of energy in me. I felt a lot of emotion, while my loved one seemed unmoved. At one point in the day, when I confronted her, she turned a face of horrifying blankness and impassivity toward me. In the moment of feeling that horror, I knew I had some work to do.

Fascinated

I found myself fascinated with my own level of horror, because strong emotion is always an indicator of strong meaning, and often of a large opportunity to do more inner work. I appreciate my emotions; they are friends, guides, and John the Baptists, crying out, “Prepare ye the way!” So, when I felt this shock of horror in myself, as I said, I became fascinated with it.

The word “fascinate” comes from the Latin, fascinare, meaning to cast a spell on. Its root is fascinum, which is an evil spell or a phallic-shaped amulet. The symbolism alone is worth noting: the phallus is creativity, it is reproduction, it is also rather ugly and frightening. When we use the word “fascinate,” or see someone caught in the thrall of an event or behavior, we can be sure that something creative is happening in the inner kindgom, regardless of what appears to be true. I think that the possibility that the real, alive self is manifesting through the fascinum ought to be kept in mind whenever we see energetically driven, repetetive behavior.

The day I felt that horror wash over me, if I had screamed out in horror like a person in a spook house, or shrieked as one watching a horror movie, it would have perfectly expressed my feelings at that moment of seeing her frozen, blank face.

The Dream

A week later, I dreamed about this blankness. I dreamed that I had been away from home and returned to discover that one of my prized heirlooms, a rare vase inherited from my grandmother, had been broken as our children ran through the house playing. In the room with me, staring at the shattered vase, were three of my adult daughters, Ivy, Larkspur, and Marigold*.

“Who did this?!” I demanded. “Who broke this vase?!” Lark and Mari pointed at Ivy. “We just got here; she was babysitting and this happened while she was babysitting.”

I leveled an angry glare at Ivy. “What was going on? Why were the kids allowed to run through the house like that?” I demanded. But Ivy turned away from me and showed her back. This aggravated me even more, and I grabbed her shoulder with an insistent hand to stop her from walking away.

“Ivy!” I cried, trying to get her attention. She turned toward me and I saw that her face was a frozen mask, inhuman and impassive in the way of the Sphinx. Her eyes were an ethereal gold, nearly without pupils. Her entire look was that of a person in a trance or one possessed.

I felt angry, but immediately began to pretend that I didn’t feel angry. I began to say, “Something’s wrong,” trying to get the cooperation of my other daughters to help this sudden victim. My real anger and outrage at having left the other children in charge of one who was so unaware was there still, but I shoved it down like pie in a pie-eating contest, willing myself not to vomit it back up. I didn’t want to feel the horror, the rage, the sadness, and the disappointment. I didn’t want to see what was true or real. I immediately went into “helper” mode and began to help, at the expense of my own soul.

I woke up feeling horrified at myself; I carried that dream around for several days. I knew that I would be helped to understand the dream when I was ripe to be helped. So I waited.

While waiting, I continued to ruminate on the contents of the dream. Finally, I was able to get someone who has been helpful in the past to listen to my dream, along with two other dreams I’d had this week. My interpreter for the consciousness impaired was a big help by pointing out what I have hidden from myself and asking me to decipher my own code. This type of honesty and help is priceless, and I don’t take it for granted.

Dream analysis is about finding what we have hidden from ourselves. I can best illustrate how this is done by showing you how it works with the dreams of actual people; in this case, myself. How do I find the hidden, lost things within myself? I try to remain aware every day of the location of the clues that will lead me to the truth inside me. Like the rest of us, I dream about what is unconscious; I project my stuff onto others through blame (the pointing “you!” finger); and sometimes I somaticize truth I don’t want to see. I work at finding truth, because the truth will set me free. And I get help finding it, because I need the help. No one is conscious or aware about his or her unconscious contents, by definition. “Ye have eyes, but ye cannot see.” It’s like that.

I believe that this life is (in part, anyway) about finding what is lost, hidden, and in the darkness. This is what Jesus Christ taught, and it’s what Buddha and every other great spiritual example has taught, as far as I know. They came to seek and to save that which is lost, and to help us seek and save that which is lost. And sister or brother, let me tell you, it is human and normal to lose ourselves and to have to work a lifetime to find ourselves again.

Making Darkness Conscious

One of my favorite quotes of Carl Jung is this one:

One does not become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making darkness conscious. The latter procedure, however, is disagreeable and therefore not popular. (C. G. Jung, Collected Works 13, para. 335).

What Jung meant by this, among other things, was that we’re not likely to look out there into the everyday world and find many people, if any, who are making darkness conscious. It’s so disagreeable, this work, that we would much prefer to keep it unconscious by projecting it onto others or somaticizing it, which I’ve written about before here and there.

The day I had the conflict with my loved one, I perceived layers of reality because (thank God in heaven) I’ve suffered and learned enough by now that I can be aware most of the time that nothing is as it seems. There are multitudes of layers and nuances of meaning in every single human interaction. We are as fascinating as the day is long, but most of us don’t know it because we’re so dead to so much of ourselves.

The day of my conflict, I saw deadness on the face of someone I love. It horrified me because I saw that she had chosen deadness and impassivity as her solution to suffering. I knew she was suffering; but it took lengthy discussion, sprinkled with love, before she could admit to her suffering. But I knew it was there, because I Know Things TM. I know that impassive also means “not subject to suffering,” and that people only go dead and impassive when they are working like crazy to avoid their pain.

I also know that any time, any time my own passion and energy rise, I too am a contributing member of the conflict or situation. I have hidden stuff that needs to be outed; I have shadow contents that are vibrantly alive and enthusiastically trying to get my attention. I, too, was part of this drama. So I asked my self, “What’s up with you? What do you have to say to me?”

Most people, I’ve learned, don’t know how to talk to themselves, and really don’t know how to listen when their selves answer. They don’t practice solitude the way Buddhists practice, or the way the ancient desert fathers practiced. They “do” meditation, they “do” yoga, they “do” journaling, they “do” tai chi, they “do” prayer, they “do” sitting under a tree, thinking. By this I mean that we do all sorts of activities that lead to nothing more than an egotistical pat on the back (yay, me!) that supports the illusion that we’ve done something real to get in touch with a real self, when in fact we’ve merely supported the persona in its attempts to look good. Once again, we’ve lied to and tricked ourselves.

Realness

We know we fool ourselves because when Jesus really and intentionally went out into the the wilderness alone, in solitude he met the devil, he was fed by angels, and he came back to the world and changed it. When Buddha really and intentionally sat under the bodhi tree, he insisted that he wouldn’t budge until he was enlightened, and so it happened. Buddha came back to the world and changed it. Real solitude with the real self creates real change. If you think that your so-called practice is doing anything real, ask for a reality check from the people who know you best. Ask them if they are catching a more or less real vibe from you; ask them if they intuit or feel the real you, or a sad substitute. Ask them. They’ll not lie, if you’ve collected any sort of honest, alive people around you (and if you haven’t, love yourself and get thee hence to an analyst).

Realness is self-evident. Depth psychologists tell us that realness it is always accompanied by humility, unpredictability, vibrancy, numinosity, and what I call “the magic.” It is not something we can fully contain or control, which is why we say we have this treasure in earthen vessels. I use this Bible verse in my sidebar because I need a constant reminder that this treasure is confounding, it’s not something one expects to find in people like us, or even in this world. But it’s here.

The Shadow Knows

During the conflict with my loved one, I knew that the degree of horror I felt at her appearance of impassivity, her unconsciousness and deadness of the moment, was directly proportional to my own level of unconsciousness and deadness about the issue she was heralding. The conflict was only useful to whoever was alive and present enough to make use of it. Conflict is a treasure like gold ore, mined out of the deep, rocky places of the earth but also sometimes found glittering in streams.

It didn’t matter whether the other person would become awake, or would see what was happening to her. I can do nothing about another person’s process and progress along their path unless I am invited. And hard knocks have taught me that such invitations are often suspect and may conceal traps or land mines. I, however, may issue an invitation to another person by asking a question; by observing; by sharing my own process. This I have done, and it has led to fruitful discussion and pondering.

What mattered in the moment–before I knew whether my partner in crime would see or not–was that I was awake and alive, and my passionate shadow self, the one who is not controlled or controllable, the one who has rage, fear, horror, laughs hysterically, puts her foot in her mouth, and belches at the table, that self was trying to tell me something.

I’m grateful to be at a point where I can tolerate the intrusions of my shadowy self into my conscious world. Thank you, shadow self; I appreciate your pain-in-the-ass-ness (which in the original language is translated more like, “F*** you, I love you”).

I asked my shadow self for help understanding the drama. And she helped me, because later that week I dreamed this dream of the Sphinx face. Just as the Sphinx of the Greek myth devoured anyone who could not rightly perceive the riddle of human development, so this Sphinx face I saw in reality, and the one in me, is a devourer. She will destroy anyone who will not answer her riddles correctly, and there is only one correct answer.

Interpretations

The day of my conflict, I speculated that my loved one had only one answer she was willing to hear from me. Whenever I fail to give her the correct answer to her riddle, she turns her destructive face toward me. This same destructiveness is at work within me. Though I can do nothing about anyone else’s immovable, destructive Sphinx, I can certainly do something about mine. Rather than reject it in horror, I must move toward it, or at the very least stand my ground in front of it. I must be willing to engage the Sphinx and attempt to answer the riddle. I must be courageous enough to risk destruction, and whole enough to offer answers, like the heroic but anguished Oedipus.

In my dream, two daughters represented the trustworthy, alive, and growing parts of me that are fertile, productive, energetic, and engaging. Another daughter represented the parts that are in a blind trance, the part that uses illness to deflect large emotions. Then there is the shadow part represented by the angry me that is so dishonest that it will feign concern when in reality it is feeling horror and rage. These latter dream symbols represented aspects of my self that are false, cold, willful, expendable, and as needy as a vampire.

The broken vase? It is a one-of-a-kind treasure and heirloom. It was always present at my grandmother’s house on her sideboard, a house that meant for me home, warmth, and love. The vase is quite beautiful and we have never been able to find another like it. As a vessel, it is also symbolic of the womb, the lotus, or (for Westerners) the rose. Jung wrote that “the vessel motif is an expression of the content, just as Shakti represents the actualization of Shiva,” or as Buddha is depicted sitting in the lotus.  Jung quotes Conrad of Wurzburg as referring to, ”Mary, the flower of the sea in which Christ lies hidden,” and the Virgin Mary is often depicted with a rose in her womb (Archetypes 364). I will have to get past the Sphinx in order to return to the womb of creativity, imagination, and fantasy that germinate the seed of God.

In the dream, I yielded my real passions and self to the unfeeling, insensible, destructive, unaccountable Sphinx part, even though it horrified me to do so. I can be neglectful to the point of fracturing my treasures and my real self, leaving them under the control of a part that I know is destructive and capricious; this Sphinx part of myself is often still that powerful.

But the real self is in there too, telling me the truth, leveling an accusing finger at the Sphinx, waiting and loving me still as I keep casting my pearls before Sphinxes.

This is usually the case with real selves; real selves are in precarious positions, for real selves are seldom wanted or appreciated in everyday life. People want mostly what is fake from us; they don’t particularly care for what is real. If one is accomplished, intelligent, attractive, and successful (as I am, by outward appearances), but the real self becomes known and is obviously flawed, imperfect, unreliable, unpredictable, messy, smelly, ugly, and oh-so-human, it is not wanted any more.

Another Possibility

Another possible interpretation was offered me by my partner-in-conflict, the loved one who later discussed the conflict and my dream contents with me as we drank tea and mused. She reminded me that sphinxes also were tombs, built to cover the final resting place of kings or rich folk. As such, they might be symbols of bones long buried, ancestors, or the fear of mortality. My unconscious is showing me a part that turns away and goes impassive to avoid suffering.

I have reason to suspect myself in the area of ancestral meaning. I have numerous historical threads of religious persecution running in my veins. The collective unconscious of suffering, persecuted, tortured, fleeing people is in there; people who have not only fled, but who have rebelled, are in there. What are they trying to say to me? What changes do I need in my inner life that will open me up to the suffering that transforms? I must not turn away from it. I must see that part of me wants to; I must also see that other parts stand there like a Greek chorus, pointing accusing fingers and saying, “See the truth!” and yet another part puts an angry hand out and demands answers. Yet the very part angry enough to demand answers will shrink back at the impassive face. When I encounter impassivity in myself or others, I’ll let it be a signal and hope that some part of myself, or God, will help me with my self. Coax me along; show me the tomb. Speak to me of the bones of my mothers and fathers.

Growing Up, Again

In our first adulthood, as I’ve indicated, we really think that we can make things perfect and that hard work will be rewarded by our desired outcomes. We think we can improve on just about everything those idiots who came before us did. As James Hollis points out, we haven’t suffered enough disappointment, pain, and disillusionment in the first adulthood. We have to raise children until they are at least 25-30 years old, have our hearts broken, see ourselves fail as parents, spouses, daughters, sons, employees, bosses and children of God, and we have to live a long time and suffer quite a bit before we arrive at the place where we can see clearly enough to see that we were wrong and mistaken. Full of pride, we had a big fall. Some people suffer the fall and are awakened; others lie there and moan for the rest of their lives, blaming others for their pain.

My real self is fecund and alive; it is a brat, running through the house and breaking treasures; it is a Sphinx made of stone, ready to devour anyone who doesn’t get it right; it is a beautiful, rare container with sparkling, reflective facets and etchings. My real self holds life-giving water and is beautiful; she contains oceans, generations, and universes.

When I see within me all that I love and all that horrifies me, I feel tearfully grateful to be alive. I feel so happy to have progressed as far as I have, even though I’m retarded, lame, hateful, beautiful, glorious, inept, and brilliant all at the same time. I’m grateful to be alive, to be awake in some part, and grateful that my inner cast of characters are still willing to appeal to me by whatever means possible. I’m most privileged, too, to live with many people who are difficult, handicapped, loving, and willing, because I think the way would be lonelier and slower if I had disallowed their provocative presence and opted for a solitary life. I’m grateful to know God and to have Him continually with me, even when I am solitary and alone on my inward path.

I hope if you read through this whole post that you will take your night dreams seriously, and value your passionate feelings and conflicts, and let them teach you. What you discover inside yourself will be disgusting, horrifying, impossible to believe, and exhilarating. If you muster up your courage, you can get to a place where few people go, and you’ll have done it while you’re still alive, before you cross over into the next life.

You’ll be the hero you always dreamed of finding.

References

Jung, Carl. The Archetypes and the Collective Unconscious. Princeton University Press, 1990.

*Names have been changed to protect the actual.

Categories: Dream Interpretation · Individuation

21 responses so far ↓

  • the individual voice // October 24, 2007 at 12:36 PM | Reply

    Your blogroll analysis, I mean your dream analysis is fascinating. Especially that deadness, emptiness, blank space. There must be a reason for it. If I could only interpret the reason. But alas, I am not whole. I am not even sure I know what you mean by whole. My own dreams have always been vivid and crystal clear in meaning to me. No shadows to be known. All my shadows are know, which is why I think I’m so prone to misery. But the damn blogroll. Why does it bother me so much. No one else’s. I can take or leave others’. But not yours.

  • the individual voice // October 24, 2007 at 12:38 PM | Reply

    All those errors due to guilt of neglecting my paperwork. I meant: All my shadows are known.

  • Eve // October 24, 2007 at 12:57 PM | Reply

    Tiv, of course there is a reason for the impassivity. Remember, impassive means “not subject to suffering.” We do not want to suffer, to subject ourselves to it or learn from it, therefore we deaden ourselves somehow, turn away, turn a blind eye, go victim.

    I’m not sure what I mean by whole, either. I asked a fellow Jungian a few days ago, “What short-hand phrase do you use to describe the depth psychology work toward individuation, the Quest, the personal monomyth, etc.?” She paused and then said, “There is no short-hand for that.”

    We don’t know what we mean exactly, but we do know it in our guts. We know it in our dreams. We know it when we gasp in awe, when we cry over beauty. When it feels that our gratitude or joy will overwhelm us. When we are in anguish, but we know we are not alone. When we screw up, but we feel strangely comforted to be part of a big whole lot of screwed up humanity.

    Somehow we know whole. I try to get there. That’s all I know; it’s the home to my inner homing device. I know you have one too; we all do.

    I’m really glad that you like my blog, because I hoped that if I put some of my thoughts out there, I would meet fellow travelers. You and I are traveling along paths, our own paths. We can see one another. You’re familiar! we cry out.

    I’m glad.

    About Hymes… Hymes is not a bitch. She just huffed off with her toys after making a quick judgment, and that’s too bad for her. I mean that in the most sincere way. Had she stayed and taught me a thing or two, I would be more learned. Had she stayed, she might have enlightened me. So I suffer her loss.

    Had she stayed, she might have learned from me. She might have changed also. So she suffers my loss. Too bad.

    But the good news is, we will each learn what we need and want to learn eventually. She will keep running into people she judges and has to huff off from. I don’t want a world in which I have to keep huffing off because I label people. I may label people, but I don’t mean to, and I do want to have my rudeness and blindness pointed out to me! I will only become better and more of a self. I may not change their way, but I will truly change.

    That’s what I’m doing. It’s very difficult and it scares the hell out of me, Tiv. I know it does you, too… but you’re courageous and you can do this. You just need to recall some of your projections that run like baying hound dogs. Figure out why Hymes scares you so badly.

    Get some internal pepper spray or an inner Plato or an inner whatever works for you part that can stand up to huffing or even outright attack and be OK with it. And sleep soundly at night. You help others do it, so you have the tools.

    Physician, heal thyself. ;o)

  • the individual voice // October 24, 2007 at 2:24 PM | Reply

    Fine, and in healing myself I will just accept that even though I introduced you to half your blogrollees, I am now excluded for some mysterious reason that I will have to struggle with myself as I intend to keep visiting intriguing you. You are the multiplicitiy you appear to be and therefore feel safe.

  • Eve // October 24, 2007 at 5:41 PM | Reply

    Tiv, interesting that you think you “introduced” me to half my blogrollees. You didn’t; but it’s OK if you think you did. I have to ask though, did you not consider that some of them may have introduced me to you, so to speak?

    The first two blogs I ever looked at when I started mine were Jade’s and RG’s. I followed all their links and looked at them all; I kept what resonated with me and sub’bed to several, and link to some. Yours was among them.

    Your response seems angry. Why are you angry? Did I offend you somehow? If so, let me know.

    I am a multiplicity, I’m glad you see that. I actually think we all are; being Jungian, I think we have this committee of archetypes and we run off them, for good or for ill.

    There is a Walt Whitman poem about being a nation or a universe or something like that; I’ll have to look it up. Maybe something like that demon-possessed fellow in the gospels said, “My name is Legion.” That’s on the dark side; but on the light side, I actually think all is one and therefore… we are legion in a very good way also.

    Tiv, I love you. Take care.

  • Eve // October 24, 2007 at 5:50 PM | Reply

    P. S. You are not excluded. I’d bet that’s why you’re angry. Let me think about this and I’ll respond later; but initially when I removed your blog it was because you had left it, or so you said.

    I also had another reason, and I blogged about it here or at Alma Mater. Not specifically; but that particular day I also removed other blogs because their owners seemed closed-minded to me and had agendas that did not include the wonder and openness necessary to individuation; and I am on a single minded journey to wholeness. I do not want to take anyone, even as a link, who does not seem to be on that journey.

    That week I know for sure I removed other people’s blogs. Yours was not removed for that reason. But I admit I also have not read your blog lately. You seemed unhinged and I didn’t like that because it could weigh me down in the blogosphere, and I am on a boat going with the current and I don’t want or need anchors like that.

    This is the honest truth. Maybe your blog is not an anchor for me. I don’t know; I’ll read and see. If you feel mad about my honesty, I’m sorry. If you hate me for being truthful, I imagine you may be vindictive and attack me. So be it.

    This is very open and perhaps not for public viewing. But since we are two anonymous human beings in the blogosphere, able to disappear completely whenever we want or need to, I’m going to risk this.

    I think you are brilliant, educated, intelligent, and able. I think you are deeply wounded and haunted by ancestral inheritances that you have the terrible and awesome task of healing. I think you are suffering but you also want a way out. I think you are a good mother, and a good therapist or good at whatever you do, and you’re exhausted. I think you need and want a soft place to land and you question if you have that in yourself or if you can find it outside of yourself.

    I’m telling you that you can find it inside yourself. I know you know this, so please don’t be angry with me for stating the obvious. I think we would like each other IRL and I think you’re fine.

    But if you unlinked my blog from yours, I would understand that it’s your choice. I would still read yours if I wanted to. That’s the truth. Yes, I would wonder about it. I would probably ask you about it. But I would still take you along with me in thought and memory as someone I met along the river of my journey. Nobody could take that from me, not even you.

    I feel now like a nut writing this, because it sounds so hopelessly… silly and profound, real and crazy at the same time. But it’s from my heart and I hope your heart gets what I’m saying. As my son asks, “you feel me?”

    You feel me, Tiv? You feel me?

  • the individual voice // October 24, 2007 at 9:21 PM | Reply

    Yes, I feel you. Yes, I was getting unhinged. It happens. I am rehinging. I don’t feel mad because I know that you are honest and it is lies that anger me. I figured it was something like this and might take time or not. I still learn from your blog. There are other blogs I read that don’t link me and i always lie and say I don’t care, it’s everyone’s choice. I believe it’s everyone’s choice, though I do care, but that’s irrelevent as we are each on our own journeys and I’ve learned from you and will continue to and will continue to develop my blog in ways that are best for me and not necessarily others. I have a new direction evolving and it may in fact be far away from here, but I’m not mad (you’d know if I was) and I’ll check in because your journey still fascinates me. Thanks for the honesty. There is nothing on this planet I appreciate more, or that is rarer.

  • Eve // October 24, 2007 at 9:30 PM | Reply

    Tiv, thank you for understanding.

  • hymes // October 24, 2007 at 10:06 PM | Reply

    Eve, I came back but you may not have seen that.
    TIV, I said this elsewhere on this blog but will say again, I do not hate you. People who actually know me do not think of me the way you do, but that’s okay, you do not know me. I wish you peace.

  • Eve // October 24, 2007 at 10:26 PM | Reply

    Hello, Hymes. :o ) Welcome back! I’m happy to see you again because now we get to continue to know one another and, hopefully, learn from one another. Or at least have fun!

  • the individual voice // October 24, 2007 at 10:27 PM | Reply

    I really appreciate hearing that Hymes. I actually admire your newsletter. You are doing good work. I am working on erasing all aspects of that terrible episode from my blog.

  • charlotteotter // October 25, 2007 at 12:03 AM | Reply

    Thanks for the wonderful post about acknowledging and accepting the darkness. I’m definitely still in my first adulthood, believing that I can fix everything and make it all better for everyone. I’m also far better at seeing other people’s darkness and how they can face it than my own. Projection or what?

    But what you’re saying is that it’s a journey, and we’re on it, and we must celebrate it, which I do.

  • Eve // October 25, 2007 at 7:49 AM | Reply

    Tiv, I took the liberty of editing out comments that seemed to be ‘aspects of that terrible episode.’ I think we can use our manners and be aware of each others’ fallibilities and try to be tolerant. I don’t think you or Alison ought to give up any of your gut instincts about or toward one another; nor must you spew them. Maybe this can be an excerise in living with ambivalence and in the gray areas of life, where we know we can’t like or be liked by everyone, agree with everyone.

    I hope that makes sense. I support you both in your efforts at peaceableness and admire that each of you can see the other person’s strengths. That’s important. I hope that in the other person’s weaknesses we all see ourselves, too. That leads to giving up of resentments, which is what forgiveness is in my book.

    (I find that I can’t forget and that forgetting has often been dangerous; but giving up resentments and the need to damn people to hell emotionally or to keep on seething… to me, that is forgiveness.)

    Anyway, this is good stuff. I continue to subscribe to your blogs and read, and that’s been very good.

  • Eve // October 25, 2007 at 7:51 AM | Reply

    Charlotte, it helps me to have learned that it’s a psychological and spiritual journey forward as well as a physical one. They’re paths of death and re-birth, leaving and happening upon.

    I keep losing sight of that or getting bogged down in details, sort of like a pilgrim who forgets what she’s about, where she is going. That’s an aside, but your comments of knowing where you’re at stirred me to think about where I think I am in my own journey. Sometimes I’m just making daisy chains and not going where I need to go; other times it’s all about the daisy chains.

  • Lamberakis // October 25, 2007 at 8:12 PM | Reply

    I don’t understand my dreams. I see all these images in them, but I fail to come up with any cohesive explanation for any of them.

    About seven years ago I had a bizarre dream in which a number of famous and nonfamous people made an appearance, all having a certain set of initials in their names. I only realized the initials connection later in the day. When I was dreaming it, I didn’t piece the thing together and it seemed like a bunch of random people meeting me in different places.

    The bizarre thing is, I met a person (in waking life) three months ago who shares those initials. I am powerfully attracted to this person; more than I have been to anyone in many years.

    Do I feel this attraction because I dreamed of the initials; or was the dream of the initials a prophesy or sorts?

    How strange are these things that can happen sometimes. I am getting older, but I still can’t make sense of much of anything. So I make things up as I go along :o ) That seems to work. But why do I feel like there is a profound order underneath everything?

  • Lamberakis // October 25, 2007 at 8:13 PM | Reply

    PS – Reconciliations are always nice.

  • Eve // October 27, 2007 at 10:49 AM | Reply

    Lamb, it sounds to me as though you have a robust dream life, which (from a Jungian perspective) is quite wonderful.

    Dream interpretation from a Jungian perspective is always driven by the meaning attached by the dreamer to the dream contents. So, for example, if you dreamed of an old man in a hat falling off a moving train, the questions you might ask yourself could include:

    What is the old man? What do I think about old men? What do old men represent to me? What old men have I been close to? What were they like in my life? How did I respond to them, etc.?
    Have I ever seen an old man fall off a train? When? What happened? How do I feel about the old man falling? Why?

    Talk about trains; what do they mean? When was the last time I was on a train? Where have I last seen one? What feeling do I get when thinking about riding on a train? Was the train moving, or not? Describe the train; what does it mean to me?

    What does the way the old man was dressed mean to me? Do I remember anything in particular about him?

    And so on, and so forth. I’ve found that working with an analyst, an experienced friend who knows how to question me, a fellow Jungian, or with myself over a period of about a week after the dream arrived all contribute to fairly good interpretations of what’s going on with the unconscious.

    In the Sphinx dream, I barely scratched the surface. What I learned about my hidden and unresolved unconscious inner life would take chapters to relay; that’s how rich some dreams can be. Others provide only a snippet.

    You seem like an interesting person with a lively unconscious life, and a conscious life or persona that is aware that something’s under the surface. This is (in my opinion) a profitable combination in people seeking to become more aware.

    There is a profound order underneath everything for you; it is your personal order, and then there is the order of the universe, in the sense in which you have your place in it, and your place works in the whole of it. I know I seem quite self-assured in saying that; this is because I’m at the place of knowing rather than merely believing some things, and that’s one of them.

    About the initials… turn them inward and ask yourself what those initials mean to you. Most Jungians would say that each person with the initials is an aspect of you that is repressed and wants expression. Now you’ve met (drawn to yourself) a person with these initials and you feel a powerful attraction. A Jungian would suggest that you externalized what you have not yet owned internally, and you feel a powerful attraction because you recognize in this person a lost or fragmented-away part of yourself.

    This is so fascinating and it’s the stuff that “dreams are made on.” It illustrates in just one more way the miraculous depths of the human being.

    The initials, which are like a monogram–a shorthand method of denoting ownership, eh?–if you write them out and look at them, what might they signify about or for you? When did you first encounter them outside your dream? What do these people have in common besides the initials? In the person you’ve recently met with the initials, what qualities do you perceive? And so on. Quiz yourself until you’re exhausted.

    Then look to see where those qualities are absent in your conscious, persona-driven life. There may be some part of you that’s trying to come home to roost, so to speak. You may let it come home to roost internally, or you may externalize, fall in love with the person with those initials, and continue to resist integrating those aspects inwardly. This may or may not work for a lifetime. If the other person is willing to stay stuck in those qualities and be them for you all the time for the next 50 years, the relationship can work very well; but if that other person individuates and stops being that to you (and you stop being your yin to his yang), then midlife crisis occurs and the relationship is over.

    This is why depth psychologists suggest that we do our inner work first, and try to avoid falling in love with lost aspects of ourselves that we think we see in others.

    I think this is a little pessimistic, because if we can first see a quality we love outside of ourselves, and we keep reminding ourselves that “all is one,” as Buddha taught, then we know that we are also loving (or hating) ourselves and we can work on the real stuff, rather than merely clinging to the illusion.

    Whew. This is all off the cuff and I hope I have not been too personal. Thanks for sharing and let me know your thoughts, if you care to.

  • Lamberakis // October 30, 2007 at 4:00 PM | Reply

    Thanks, eve. I’ll give it some thought. I continue to feel more attracted everyday to the man with the initials ;-) I think it’s true that the attraction is rooted, in part at least, to my wanting to relinquish responsibility for working on my “lost parts,” cognates of which this man clearly embodies for me, very confidently, assertively even. It’s the girl-child in me wanting to leave masculinity to men-to this particular man-though, as I’ve mentioned in other posts, I have a strong masculine side of my persona. I guess-and this is off the cuff, too-that I want to be more clearly feminine and abandon the effort of acting in certain manly ways, as I feel I have to do to “get ahead” on my own in the world. This man brings that out in me very muchly. lol

    On the other hand, in terms of why he’s special and not just “any” man, the man in question has a way about him that resonates deeply with me. I get a sense that we vibrate on the same frequency, so to speak. This is a rare ocurrence for me and very uplifting/affirming. There are passing moments when I feel in love, though with my rational caution and all the limits I impose on myself, for practicality’s sake (I try to play it safe because men may come and go, but I give myself ultimate responsibility for my own survival). Naturally, I wonder what, if anything, he is feeling or thinking, as well. I am too shy to probe the issue. But I can vent here ;-)

  • Lamberakis // October 31, 2007 at 8:30 PM | Reply

    Wow. Is this a riddle? For me? I followed your trail and found the stuff about the shadow. I almost never dream of women. I do dream of couples sometimes. But by far, most often, I dream of men of all ages, sizes and shapes.

    My shadow is a cool, funny, righteous badass. She has a wicked laugh and is able to see humor in the darkest places. She likes me to play with language almost to the point of making myself unintelligible. She gets a kick out of messing with meaning, which means she gets a kick out of confusing the heck out of everyone. Lucky for us I’ve been able to channel that wackiness into a writing habit. But it does sometimes get me in trouble in the real world. I am sometimes told that I am difficult to decipher.

    My shadow is also a devil who says that you answer bad with badder. She hates abuses of power especially, for some reason. You know… adults molesting children, people abusing animals, Nazis exterminating people. These bring out the rage. My shadow wants to kick metaphorical ass. When I was very young my shadow liked to kick literal ass. I was quite the troublemaker and fight-starter. My mother tells me she wondered if I was possessed or mentally “off” somehow.

    In fact, I kind of like my shadow, though she can be a little destructive.

    Thanks, Eve!

  • Eve // November 1, 2007 at 11:17 AM | Reply

    Lamb, Jung said it’s good to make friends with your shadow, because if you don’t, he or she will kick your ass for it. It sounds like you are in touch with your inner ass-kicker… but (here I’ll mess with you), how about your inner animal abuser, your inner Nazi, your inner [cringe] child molester?

    Ack!

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