The Third Eve

The Politics of Greed, Fear, and Hate

October 10, 2008 · 20 Comments

There are no simple solutions to the problems of mental disorders and addictions. Although all mental health disciplines require that practitioners adhere to and practice the value of informed consent—giving clients as much information as they need to give their informed consent to treatment—few seem to the double secret, 1927 by you.practice it. Giving clients a one- or two-page sheet of information about the pros and cons of mental health treatment in general, or even an estimate of how many sessions the client may need is not the same as telling the client the truth about what we know about treatment for their particular mental disorder, or that of their loved one. I know from experience that few therapists give their clients the actual, bottom-line facts about how long treatment will take, how effective it will be, and how much it will cost. Most treatable mental disorders take over two years to treat in such a way that the client experiences a significant change in real-world function and their subjective experience of the changes. This is costly, often more costly than companies want to pay. And many people forget to check their lifetime limits of insurance coverage: there’s only so much insurance money available.

addictions

And then there are the mental disorders that are not much treatable, with a poor prognosis, and which are nearly entirely dependent on the client’s desire and ability to maintain a treatment protocol. Substance abuse Le Bouquet tout fait, 1957 by you.disorders (addictions) are a case in point. Notoriously resistant to treatment and with poor overall long-term outcomes, we lose more money on addiction-related illness than on any other mental disorder in the United States. The costs of treated and untreated addictions are astronomical. And treatment centers and individual practitioners rarely seem to tell the family members footing the bill, or the addicts themselves, the facts about outcome studies.

The only solution that has ever worked long-term with addiction, in fact, is free: the 12-Step programs such as Alcoholics Anonymous, Narcotics Anonymous, Overeaters Anonymous, etc. Some years ago, an APA meta-analysis of all the addiction outcome research ever done bore this out. Researchers found that just about anything worked when a person wanted help, and that 12-Step recovery was more effective than individual therapy for addictions. Self-help, reading books, talking to friends or family, and having a relationship with God all helped more than having a therapist. But what therapist in his or her right fiscal mind is going to tell the client this fact?

Even so, the relapse rate among addicts of all kinds is high. As many as 90% cannot stay clean and sober for more than 12 months at a time, and nearly every addict eventually relapses. The relapse and failure rates for the majority of chronic mental disorders for which treatment even exists are abysmal and always have been. Actor Carroll O’Connor, whose son committed suicde after years of drug addiction, once said, “Get between your kid and drugs, any way you can, if you want to save the kid’s life.” I cannot agree more, for those who get lost in addiction often are lost for a lifetime. And then they die; that’s what happens with addictions.

My point is that there are no known cures for addiction. Those who disparage 12-Step programs for always calling addicts “recovering” and never fully “recovered” lack adequate empirical information about how addictions work, and what they do to people. There is no cure. A person simply learns to live always as an addict in recovery, in the process of working to stay sober. The addict must always stay vigilant, and there’s no insurance on earth that can pay for this type of vigilance.

The state of psychotherapy

As James Hillman and Michael Ventura point out, “We’ve Had a Hundred Years of Psychotherapy and the World’s Getting Worse.”  Psychiatry and psychology are among the most notorious failures as healing Les Reveries du Promeneur Solitaire, 1926 by you.professions; we do not heal as much as we teach people how to get by. Given that, I suppose that it only makes sense to combine national emergency help for failed mortgage companies and other financial institutions with help for mental health consumers. The problem that I see is that often times the most vulnerable people, the ones most in need of hope, are sold a bill of goods by the folks who are ultimately going to benefit by the sale. Insurance companies can drop their mental health and addiction plans altogether if they do it to an entire class of people, say, all their plan members working in XYZ market or in XYZ demographic, and there is nothing in the new law to prevent it. The new law does not mandate mental health or addiction coverage. It merely tells mid- to large-size businesses that if they cover mental illness or addiction at all, they have to be fair about it. And small businesses—those with fewer than 50 employees—do not have to provide equity at all.

Ultimately, it is the mental health practitioners who will benefit most from the passage of this bill. It is they who will be lining their pockets, whether their clients improve or not, whether their clients ultimately die from the disorder or not. This is true for the cancer patient as much as it is true for the alcoholic, the crack addict, or the autistic child: practitioners are paid whether they succeed or not, and even when there is little chance of their efforts succeeding.

How different the professions are from the trades. Professionals cannot guarantee success, but must be paid anyway, while tradesmen must guarantee success or they will not be paid. Do we admire, respect, and pay professionals so much more because we admire this clever and educated ruse? Sometimes I think so. And I smile at our naivete.

the zen cure

One reason I left practice was that I saw, after some years, that therapists tended to have similar outcomes jimdine4 by you.regardless of their training, preparation and dedication, and research confirmed this. For the easy-to-treat problems that plague the majority of Americans, any kind of therapist is about as effective as the next kind; any kind of therapy is about as effective as the next. Most types of therapy being applied by most types of therapists work most of the time for the run-of-the-mill problems being treated most of the time. The Consumer Reports research with former APA President Martin Seligman identified the common mental health problems that plague our society as general anxiety, panic, phobia, depression, low mood, alcohol or drugs, grief, weight, eating disorders, and problems with the marriage, sex, children, family, work, or stress. Successful, long-lasting  treatment of the more difficult and serious mental disorders, such as schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, borderline personality disorder, persistent substance abuse, and most others, continues to be the Holy Grail of psychotherapy.

Zen master Thich Nhat Hanh says that the reason people need therapists is that they have nobody to listen to them at home. He believes that all illnesses of the mind and soul arise from the lack of compassion, relatedness, and community. In my favorite book of his, True Love, he writes:

The other suffers as long as he is in need of someone to listen to him; and you—you are the person who can do it. If someone has to have recourse to a psychotherapist, it is because no one in his house can listen. A psychotherapist should be able to sit there and really listen, but I know therapists who have suffered too much and do not truly have the ability to listen to their clients.

So if we love someone, we should train in being able to listen. By listening with calm and understanding, we can erase the suffering of another person. An hour spent in this way can already relieve a great deal of another person’s pain.

The funny thing about Thich Nhat Hanh’s beliefs is that research bears them out. After about two years of jimdine1 by you.getting any sort of therapist to listen to them, people with our most commonly-reported mental disorders mostly tend to improve. But I question why we are going to therapists when we could be making friends instead. Why are we paying someone $120 an hour to listen to us, when we might get free help? Has our society become so isolated that we no longer have friends with the time or ability to listen to us? Have we out-sourced the blessings of friendship to paid professionals, much as we out-source our parenting to paid babysitters, nannies, and other child-care workers?

Clients who want to get better, get better. Those who do not want to improve do not. The most effective treatment for any addiction is given by a community of addicts, not by a lone therapist or treatment center. People forced into treatment of any kind rarely improve substantially. The information necessary to help people heal is freely available. Being loved and having friends is healing. These are some of the things I learned as a therapist, and learning them are part of what influenced me to retire from that work. So, when I read about this new law that promises help for our ever-increasing mental illnesses, I know that only true love provides true help, and I know that our society and world are so sick with greed, fear, and hatred that we are not likely to be able to truly love others enough that we can really help them. We can barely help ourselves. We are in deep trouble, and it’s a trouble that cannot be legislated away.

The politics of greed, fear, and hate

The political climate in the U.S. and what it has brought out in people are clear evidence of just how greedy, fearful, and hateful we are as a people. Blaming fingers are pointed everywhere. Just a few days ago I received emails from two different Democrat friends who blame Republicans for ruining our country. They know that I’m a registered Republican; I wonder if they remember this when they cast their wide net of blame? On the other side of the fence are the people I know who are Republican, who can be heard as we wait outside the school to pick up our children, blaming ”those tax-and-spend Democrats,” the ones whose majority in Congress have strapped us with more taxes (never mind that we elected a Republican president). Democrats blame Republicans and “their Republican president;” Republicans blame Democrats and “their Democratic congress.” But as Pogo said, “We have seen the enemy, and he is us.”

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Because we don’t want to see the truth about ourselves, we remain blind about the source of our disproportionate irritation.  Often, what most aggravates us about others, we first reject and resist in ourselves. The hatred being thrown out there onto the “other party” is probably first and foremost our fear of our own shadowy parts that we refuse to admit into consciousness. Conservatives who hate the philosophy of letting the poor suck the life out of the able probably fear helplessness more than anything else. Liberals who hate the philosophy of rugged individualism and pulling yourself up by the bootstraps represented by conservatives reject the parts of themselves that might take personal responsibility. Everyone wants everyone else to do something; everyone wants someone else to blame.

I have an odd view of current events: I believe we reap what we sow, and we get what we unconsciously reject, but which is needed to heal us. Our next president will be the man we need, but not necessarily the one we want. And he won’t be able to change much more than anyone else who came before him changed. They’re all in Washington together and they’re not helping us, and we’re blaming them. This is the story we tell ourselves.

Doing my part

But we’re not helping us, either. I wonder just how much debt every American complaining about the bailout bill carries individually? How much in credit card balances? How many car loans? How much in mortgage Mysteries of the Horizon, 1955 by you.debt? How many Americans tell their children to go to college on federal school loans rather than working their way through school the old-fashioned way, and then look the other way when their kids default on their student loans? How many parents were unwilling to help their kids when they needed help and might have benefitted by it, and let other taxpayers foot the bill for the kid they foisted on society? How many said, “It’s not my fault!” and refused to look into the way they raised their kids, the adult decisions they made that affected their kids, and their lack of familial charity, and then blamed others?

It’s easy to swipe that credit card and easy to take a swipe at a fellow American, a person who is our brother or sister. It’s much more difficult to live lives of personal responsibility, accountability, and true compassion and love. It’s easier to blame others than to ask, “What might I have done that contributed to this failure? What can I do about it now?”

My invitation this week is to ask everyone to think back over the past week, and take a “searching and fearless moral inventory” of all the blaming words that have come out of your mouth, or rolled around inside your mind and heart. Think of all the finger-pointing you’ve done. And then recall any projections, and send some love the way of those people you reviled and blamed. They are probably as sincere and well-intentioned as you about their own beliefs. They are probably no stupider than you are, regardless of what you think. Look into yourself for the characteristics you despise in them. Look closely. You’ll find them in yourself, too, and you’ll be inspired to be more compassionate and forgiving, I’m sure.

The way of love

One of my oldest and dearest friends is a staunch Democrat. In over 25 years of friendship we have never shared political or religious beliefs. But we have worked shoulder-to-shoulder for the same right causes, and we have changed the face of American child welfare in permanent, lasting ways. We have accomplished jimdine3 by you.the same goals by the same means with very different political and religious philosophies driving us. We rely on love, good will, hope, and respect as the underpinnings of our friendship and the way we live. If love and respect can work for us for over 25 years, through thick and thin, I know it can work on a large scale. So, please, friends, as the economy and politics and other things heat up, let’s calm ourselves. Let’s extend more kindness and love. Let’s remember all the hard things we’ve lived through and recall that they didn’t last. Let’s recall how blessed we are, and let’s be liberal with our praise and hope. Remember that the politician you hate is someone’s father, husband, wife, sister, mother, son. That person is loved by God just as dearly as you and your candidate.

And remember that nobody else is ruining the world but you and I. Instead of ruining it, let’s love on each other and spread some peace. Being loving and peaceful won’t require anyone to change their vote, and it will most certainly change the atmosphere of hatred and fear permeating our country right now. Love is the right thing to be. Let’s get out there and be love. Let’s represent our values through the kindest and most compassionate behavior. Let’s smile more and remember that hope sustains.

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  • omgdidisaythat // October 10, 2008 at 2:41 PM | Reply

    It’s a very interesting post. Sometimes very logial and orderd, reason prevailing, other times seems at best wishful thinking. Glad to hear you have stopped practicing ‘mental health care’. I firmly believe it should be considered an important area of study, rather than another arm of medicine.

    An example of the wishful thinking is : the president you need. I think you will get the president that you have already been given, and that will be one of two men, who are in effect both the same.

    Mental illness is a very perculiar thing. I think in most cases were the problem is more severe, such as bi-polar, what you see as symptoms are caused by the collapse of trust and beliefe. Everything flows around these two intangible ideas. These things are so difficult to treat because you cannot find a point at which the other person can trust you, and if you do find that point, it is so small that you cannot hold that point against the wave after wave of distrust that attacks your attempt make contact and peace. The effort you need to put in is huge. Full time. Then you stand a chance.

    Just my thoughts, probably alot of rubbish :)

    cheerio

  • helenl // October 10, 2008 at 4:07 PM | Reply

    Hi Eve, You’re my kind of people. :-) Let’s not all kill each other to prove our points. But just so you know, I’m right. LOL

  • Eve // October 10, 2008 at 5:26 PM | Reply

    Helen, you’re funny! I laughed out loud when I read you say, “…I’m right.”

    If you look at the word “right” in its political meaning,
    Right = Conservative = Republican

    I’m playing with you, but I had to chuckle over this from a Jungian perspective, where there’s always something obvious that’s hidden.

  • Eve // October 10, 2008 at 5:33 PM | Reply

    omgdidIsaythat, I don’t think wishful thinking. I think love and compassion are entirely within human reach. I think we can exercise ourselves to love others in a sensible rather than merely sentimental way.

    I agree with you that “the effort you need to put in is huge.” I’ve actually done this sort of healing myself, and it takes years and more than one or two (or even five) appointments a week. It takes living together and doing healing as full-time relationship work, as love.

    I’m also more optimistic about the odds of real relational love working; one stands more than just a chance if in relationship with the right healer. I have seen it time and again, but not so many times that I can say I know many people able to do it. But I know some, and not all are degreed professionals. In fact, sometimes I think being a degreed professional might even be a hindrance to this sort of work, particularly if the healer is not him- or herself sufficiently recovered, aware, or whole.

    Your thoughts are not a lot of rubbish. But because they are so seldom practiced, I’d say that they are more like hidden treasure, surprising in its inestimable value. Maybe hidden where most people will not go.

  • Alida // October 10, 2008 at 7:13 PM | Reply

    A couple of not related things. I’m reading a book by Hillman right now. It’s called A Terrible Love of War. I just started it.

    Second, when reading Thich Nhat Hahn’s quote, I was reminded of a woman I knew who was a phone psychic:) She would always say people needed someone to listen to them, they already knew what they needed to do. She claimed to provide a service to those who couldn’t afford a therapist or those who felt some sort of stigma about seeing a therapist.

    Something we haven’t talked about is people’s feelings of entitlement. I see it everywhere. With my own adult children, who feel we must provide for college and somehow beyond. I’m trying something different with the little ones, hoping that it’ll make a difference when they are older. To the AIG executive who felt the right to go on, was it a cruise(?), even after the bailout because it was already planned.

    I had a friend tell me long ago, it’s not that I spend too much, it’s that I’m not making enough! Go figure?

  • Vesper de Vil // October 10, 2008 at 9:10 PM | Reply

    Wow. I have been thinking about becoming a therapist, but what keeps me from jumping right in is this growing doubt I have in the art/science of therapy. Your post speaks to many of my concerns.

    I was in therapy for almost two years, and my therapist helped me tremendously. She helped me through some extremely traumatic emotions, and we did extensive dreamwork, analysis, etc.

    When the worst had passed, and I continued to see her, she began to give too much advice, telling me what I should do in terms of my career, my choice of hobbies, etc. I almost felt like she had an image of who I was to become. In this way, it seemed to become more about her. Given my vulnerable state, and given the issues of transference, I followed much of what she said without thinking twice. I gradually began to realize that it was time to leave, as much as I’d grown to love my therapist. All told, though she helped me so much, she also helped put other hurdles up. She helped take away some confusion, but added new kinds of confusion as well.

    That said, I’m not sure if good friends are able to help with certain problems and personality disorders. Therapists are trained to say certain things to open the patient’s mind to new ways of thinking, to new perspectives that may lead to healing…but then so are Buddhists! I wonder if spiritual healing can ease some issues like depression, anxiety disorders, etc.

    Anyway, fascinating topics…and I will be sure to blogroll you!

  • henitsirk // October 10, 2008 at 10:54 PM | Reply

    You go girl, spread the love :)

    I’m still editing that book about dogmatism, and having gone through Maslow, Frankl, Adler, Erikson, and more, I’m on Ellis now, who said that it is our own thoughts that cause our emotional problems. Not how we were raised, not how others treat us, no one else to blame but ourselves. Children might have irrational thoughts because they are not yet mature in their thinking, but adults can choose to change their thinking. (I haven’t gotten to read how the author will reconcile this with her previous assertions about the role of genetic predispositions and neurological development.)

    The hard part is to break out of those habits of thoughts, because they’re…well, habits. Therefore we are, at best, only semiconscious of them. And sometimes even when we become conscious of the patterns, we still are unable to break free because of even deeper levels of patterns underlying them.

    I think this is how we approach money in this country. Our materialism is not just simple greed or shallowness; it represents something that we feel is lacking on a more simple, even primitive level, and we can’t get out of the thought pattern that tells us we are lacking something.

    Are we lacking a feeling of being respected, so we buy things so that others (we think) will think well of us? Are we lacking a sense of self-worth, so we must make more money than our neighbors and thus be “worth” more than they? Are we lacking a sense of basic physical security, so that we have to surround ourselves with a nest of objects?

    Sometimes I think we’re all suffering from arrested psychological development, and so we can’t ever feel secure enough in ourselves to reach out with love toward others, either in financial or political areas.

  • David Rochester // October 11, 2008 at 1:00 AM | Reply

    I had so many thoughts while reading this; too many to sort out, probably.

    One of the series of thoughts has to do with a conversation I repeatedly have with my mother about the benefits of therapy. Perhaps ill-advisedly, I nudged and prodded and talked about my own therapy in a desperate attempt to get her to see a therapist for her severe issues with collaboration and codependence with my alcoholic narcissist father. I did this because she has no friends she can trust. One of her friends is a drug addict. One is a compulsive spender who continually enables her deadbeat children. And one is her sister who, despite years of therapy and AA, continues to enable her drug-addicted children and grandchildren. My mother has no friends other than me … and has relied on me all my life to be her friend, her spouse, everything … while refusing to listen to me when, at a very early age, I started telling her that her husband was a toxic asshole who was going to end up killing us both, at least on a figurative if not a literal level.

    She has been very resistant to therapy, and is resistant to it still, I think … and I realize I don’t really care whether she heals per se; I just want someone other than me to teach her some basic life skills.

    In a better version of the world, her mother would have taught her those skills. She would be involved in a group of women now, one of whom would mentor her. Maybe it would be a church group. Maybe it would be one of the other civic organizations to which people used to belong. Maybe it would be a choir, or a crafting group, or anything … but she is symptomatic of our isolated age, and she has no support other than the child whom she has drained so far that I can no longer stand upright.

    And so that is what I told her about therapy — that it is necessary because postmodern society has destroyed the constructs that both kept society too rigid, but also brought people together.

    The process of my own therapy, which is, as you know, for a more unusual condition, has been much on my mind lately as well, for reasons that relate very much to what you are saying in this post. My best friend had a childhood similar to mine, and while he did not develop a dissociative disorder as severe as mine, he was one screwed-up neurotic nutcase when I met him in college. He is very happy now. He has never had a day of therapy, but he is highly intelligent and able to self-observe. What he does have, however, is love. He left America, went to Europe, and found the love of his life … an amazing man who completely accepts and adores him, while still being perfectly realistic about who Josh is and what his hangups are. And Josh has been healed by that love in ways that years and years in and out of therapy have never been able to even come close to doing for me.

    I remind myself that I’ve never had therapy specifically aimed at the problem I actually have, and yet … and yet. My therapist, who has extensive training in trauma disorders, and who has been working with multiple personality disorders for a couple of decades at least, told me recently that I was the first client she’d ever had who showed up in her office with a perfectly clear idea of what was wrong with me and how it had happened. I had read virtually nothing about DID, or anything to do with dissociative trauma, but it had always been quite clear to me that part of my personality had a very separate life of its own, perceived by me to actually be located outside my own body. It wouldn’t have taken a genius to figure out that this was kind of a strange way to live, and caused bizarre problems in my ability to function. But the process of my therapy has been very much me sitting in her office and talking myself out. She doesn’t say much. Sometimes she repeats back to me what I’ve said, so I can “hear” myself. But most of the work I do in therapy actually takes place on my private blog, where a community of loving and thoughtful readers give me a variety of feedback loops that are largely uneducated in psychology, and certainly completely uneducated in trauma therapy. Most of them hadn’t ever heard of DID before I explained to them how my inner world fails to communicate. So the things they say are not schooled. They aren’t therapist things. They are simply loving and supportive things, often based on their own life experience. All of my commenters are more emotionally healthy than I am, and so they all have a more whole and balanced perspective than I do.

    Debbie, my therapist, does good work with me as far as facilitating my process, and providing information and reinforcing my own insights. But the real work is being done by this amazing group of people who just show up to love me for no good earthly reason that I can fathom. And the fact of their showing up to listen to me inevitably pushes me a little bit further down the path. I would not be doing this work if it were not for this community I am fortunate enough to have.

    And the simple fact is that the disorder I have was caused by my not being loved or listened to. I wouldn’t need therapy now had I been given appropriate attention by a loving community when I was a child and an adolescent. I wasn’t the victim of natural disasters, or horrible poverty, or anything other than continual deliberate cruelty from other people.

    And the problem is that the more isolated we become, the less able we are to heal ourselves, or to heal other people. It’s a small miracle that I have all these loving friends online; I need them to be at arm’s length because I’m still terrified of people. I can’t be healed by love right here and now in the real world because I can’t believe it exists in a safe form. The closest I can really come to reliable and responsible love , face to face, is to pay for it, once a week. And the reliability of it, and the payment for it, diminishes its value. But it’s the best thing I have right now. It may be the best thing I ever have for a long time.

    And so, in the financial crisis, which will eventually impair my ability to pay for this love, I wonder what I’ll do. Maybe I’ll make just as much progress without a therapist. Maybe I’ll jump off a bridge. Maybe I’ll just retreat into not making any further progress, and become insentient like most of the people around me. Maybe I’ll keep blogging for as long as there’s such a thing as the Internet, and that will push me onward.

    I think the science of psychology is valuable in that it permits people a structure and vocabulary of self-observation, and observation of societal and personal interaction. The more we know, the better off we are, I believe. And I think that many basic tenets of psychology do relate to life skills that a lot of people don’t get from their families.

    But I also think that I, fragmented and miserable and crazy as I am, would be able to piece myself back together if I had genuine love in my life. I kind of wonder whether I should move to France.

  • The Librarian in Purgatory // October 11, 2008 at 3:23 PM | Reply

    “Psychiatry and psychology are among the most notorious failures as healing professions; we do not heal as much as we teach people how to get by.”

    The part of our society (families, education, common sense spring to mind as a several examples) that promotes personal/ego/spiritual development is geared strictly towards creating better, more effective neurotics. In this case, I’m not including psychiatry/psychology, though it may be true and I believe it is what most people who seek it out are looking for. They are not interested in wholeness or individuation but only in making the pain stop, which is understandable. Wholeness is something desired only in pies. In contrast, much of the marketing (push to consume) in this country is specifically targeted, consciously or otherwise, at actually raising the awareness of an individual’s dis-ease and then providing a handy, ready-made product to assuage that unease. Ah, the psychology of rampant, never-ending consumerism. The song “Misery” by Soul Asylum observes: “We could build a factory and make misery; we’ll create the cure, we make the disease…I know just what you need, I might just have the thing, I know what you will pay to feel…forever after happily making misery…”

    That said, the psychological make-up of our country, regardless of politics, has significantly changed from the people who founded it. One of the more amusing and striking examples is that if there were a “wild west” today, it sure as hell would not be settled by any other than the insane as no one would make trip without government guarantees of safety from Indians, bears, wolves, illness and god-only-knows what else. In addition, roughly a third of each “wagon train” or its modern equivalent would be made up of lawyers looking to start class-action suits against the government or whoever when things inevitably didn’t go as planned/promised.

    I also find it quite striking just how much this country psychologically regressed (to the level of children in my opinion) after 9/11. It’s not a popular thing to state and is a good way to kill a cocktail party conversation. Much of the country, who had actually witnessed far greater tragedies/traumas on a monthly basis in their local cinema and only ever participated in 9/11 through their TV, acted like scared, wounded children looking for an “adult” to make their little world save again. All reason went right out the window. I remember one family being interviewed several months later by one of the 24/7 infauxnews channels saying that they were too terrified to fly and would be making the Christmas pilgrimage from Michigan to somewhere else via car. Not one person pointed out that you are statistically more likely to be killed driving to/from the airport than in a plane; or that if you add up all the deaths from ALL terrorists activities in the last 60 years AND all plane-related deaths, commercial, military, and private, that you still don’t reach the number of people killed in this country alone on the roads and highways, which has averaged about 43,000/year since the early sixties when national records began to be kept. Megalomaniac soccer mom’s in Ohio believe that Usama bin Ladin wants to kill them specifically, as if UBL spends a lot of time thinking about soccer mom’s or Ohio. Please.

    What I find more interesting though, and I hope that someone researches it (mainly so I won’t have to and can read about it rather than write it) is how the West, and the US in particular has projected its collective shadow onto the Muslim and Arabic world, which aren’t the same thing by the way, in general and UBL in particular. In that regards, brown has become the new black. I think the case can be made that this shadow projection is largely the shadow of a collective group of like-minded thinkers best exemplified by such organizations as PNAC and AIPAC, to name a few, who ironically began as a subgroup within the Democratic party before moving into and largely taking over the Republican party (neocons) and that the rest of the country, having regressed, were largely willing to go along with what those in power said and did, much in the way a child doesn’t question a parent. And I don’t know that this should be too surprising. America, or at least certain political and military elites, allegedly, have been lost since 1991 without the shadow of the evil Russian Empire. We tried to find a replacement, most notable the war on drugs, but that didn’t really live up to the former USSR and nothing much did, at least long enough to create some defining policy around, until 9/11, which was hardly the initial stage appearance of UBL or AQ.

    And this collective shadow projection is also interesting because, we have chosen to project it on a man who, while I don’t condone his methods, has much in common with the revolutionaries’ of this country who fought the British (shadow gold). While a multi-millionaire, he has lived and fought with his men, in caves or camps, spending his own money, he has said exactly what he was going to do, why he was doing it, offered a chance for the forewarned to change, and then done exactly what he said he was going to do. His cause is seen as just and that of David versus Goliath by a large portion of the world, again, even if not condoning his methods/tactics. Compare that to our leaders (in general) in politics, the military, or business. His money has helped many, many poor and impoverished people. Take a good look some time at the (sound financial) policies of the World Bank and the IMF and see if the word “rape” doesn’t occur to you. On a world-wide scale, we are in essence, watching a remake of Cape Fear and I suspect that the shadow of UBL and all that he has come to represent, which has grown far beyond the man himself, is going to be the crucible through which this country is remade, if it doesn’t self-destruct and implode in the process. And, as has been pointed out here, we no longer need to be attacked from without; the fear, greed and hate that we have unleashed will tear us apart from the inside as lines are drawn and friends become enemies— Lord of the Flies. A Chinese curse goes: May you live in interesting times. We are living in interesting times.

    “If this earth should ever be destroyed, it will be by desire, by the lust of pleasure and self-gratification.” — Lame Deer

    “Be aware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way.” –Bokonist saying, Cat’s Cradle.

  • lalber // October 12, 2008 at 6:00 PM | Reply

    A quick comment relating to one good point (out of many) in your post: Therapists as listeners. I’ve been in therapy various times in my life for the mundane things and having a listener was probably the most important healing factor for me.

  • renaissanceguy // October 13, 2008 at 8:11 AM | Reply

    Good posts lately, Eve.

    I have been reading, although I haven’t been commenting. They are giving me some inspiration for a future post on my blog. :)

  • Irene // October 14, 2008 at 1:29 AM | Reply

    Today’s thought provoking post has made me think a lot about human attachment to the shadow. How often we cannot break free from a situation, or change something in our lives, even with therapy. There seems to be some kind of attachment to a behaviour or way of reacting, a kind of enjoyment sometimes, which could be seen as perverted, but that could be my own judgment. It seems perverted because it does not serve the wellbeing of that individual. For example, when I create trouble for myself out of some weird need for/attachment to conflict – the ball just starts to roll…
    I see this in my own life as well as in those of my family members and those I am close to. I agree, Eve, love and compassion to oneself and others will bring us all a lot closer to changing this greedy, self-obsessed world. And community. By changing ourselves where possible first. And to listen to others (and ourselves?) as much as possible without judgment. This has been such a timely reminder, one that can not be given often enough.
    I hope these words don’t come across as mere platitudes – how important they are, even if seemingly simple, especially in light of global crises.

    A note to David – I was so touched to read your response here, and many other times. I think you are brave. I have a similar relationship with my mother, whom I tried to convince, when I was fifteen, to leave her husband – my father. His destructiveness was more of a controlling manner, more emotional rather than physical. It still is. I am her only friend also, and we have shared a lot of good as well as bad. But boundaries began to get mixed up. Its so hard not to take all her anguish on board as if it were mine, taking sides, even harder not to try and always fix things. In the past I always did this, now I’m trying just to listen more – just listen, maybe make suggestions, and (hopefully) without expectations. I was told long ago that it would be healthy for me to sever the ties, but I couldn’t. For so long, she was the one who listened to me, so I needed her too. Things are changing now as she and I get older, and there are certain things I have consciously chosen to do to help her – working in her garden, and listening. But in other ways, I am seeing a clearer picture of how who she has always been created a close compliance between us, due to my own character, which would be easy to see as manipulation – its so complicated! I can’t imagine what it must be like for you.
    In the past it was therapy that helped me make short and long term changes, that helped me to see and find some confidence – it still has reverberations in my trying to change things today.
    And please, don’t you ever jump off that bridge – you’re far too interesting and intelligent! :)

    So, loving and listening – yes! Its so hard not to despair and feel powerless in the face of greater powers who seem to control so much – and they are such incredible triggers for us to see ourselves by. I hope we are all able to make even small differences.

  • Eve // October 14, 2008 at 9:23 AM | Reply

    Vesper, you asked whether spiritual healing can be effective. Research shows that it is as effective or more effective than therapy. I think the problem is always with finding good help. One has to be as vigilant and concerned about finding good help just as one is vigilant and concerned about finding a good car mechanic or plumber.

    The training most therapists get isn’t sufficient in my opinion. What we get after we leave school, in terms of continuing education, is often more useful. The practicums or internships can also be helpful. And my personal favorite training is old school analytic psychology or psychanalytic and involves the analyst maintaining an ongoing analytic relationship with his/her own analyst. This will not prevent all transference and other therapy problems, but it can minimize them. My personal opinion is that the run-of-the-mill family therapist, professional counselor, counseling psychologist etc. can apply short-term fixes but is only marginally helpful for the problems of unconsciousness that plague most people.

    I do see it as a spiritual problem in part, with only spiritual solutions. And in an age that mostly denies the spirit or the existence of God, we’re going to continue to grow more ill and project our spiritual needs until something dire happens on the planet. That’s what I think.

  • Eve // October 14, 2008 at 9:34 AM | Reply

    Heni, my first impulse after reading your comment here was to turn it bold faced and red and post it on the front page of my blog for the coming week. Wowee. You certainly have a gift of being able to synthesize and communicate complex and varied material. Just WOW.

    I can’t improve on anything you wrote. I agree with you entirely.

    The so-called political process and our mindset and emotion as a nation right now are not even about politics from my perspective. I’ve grown more and more sad as the hatred has escalated. Normally ethical people I know are looking the other way, refusing (and I mean absolutely refusing!) to look at the ethical problems both candidates have. They demonize one fellow and love the other. This is so much about our own unconsciousness. It is so unbalanced. And it is unbearably frightening on one level, because when the unconscious fights so ardently to be heard and seen, but it is projected “out there,” we are on the verge of war. We are looking for an enemy. We are 100% sure that we’ve found him or her. We can be so often mistaken.

    This is why, I think, the great religions (those full of truth, and robustly able to heal and save people if people will push through the religious hucksters and get true religion) emphasize the errors of pride, arrogance, “I will,” “I know,” and “I’m sure.” Buddhists ask, “Are you sure?” and they ask, “What are you doing?” Jesus also often asked piercing questions like this.

    But, then, so did Pontius Pilate, “What is truth?” And when a society comes to the point when “What is truth?” is a relatavistic, subjective, dismissive, rhetorical question and there are no longer any footings to our lives, we are in trouble. Everything happening in our culture is so very deep. I personally think it’s about abandonment, lack of love and security and basic need-meeting, lack of peace, lack of lives with flow and harmony and full of chaos, frantic activity, schedules, and school or day care from the very earliest times so that grownups can have their lives. We are all about “me” and not about caring for the child. We are a culture of orphanhood, and America began as the collective rejected child. I believe that the proliferation and persistence of orphan tales bears this out. We are crying orphans and we have never found welcome. We act it out in every possible way.

  • Eve // October 14, 2008 at 9:56 AM | Reply

    David, oh my, please don’t jump off a self-destructive bridge of any kind. You are such a light in the world. I love to read your comments and your blogs (though I do not always comment).

    I am all for jumping off of figurative bridges when things don’t need to be connected any more. And I do wonder if there is some part of you that sees the need for escaping from the choice that looks like this:

    LAND ====bridge====LAND

    What is on both sides? What is the bridge? Is there something there that brings up that image? Just some questions. But no real bridge jumping. I find in my life that when I comment offhandedly about jumping off bridges, running away screaming, shooting myself in the head (I would never be a shoot-yourself-in-the-foot type), or drinking hemlock, and so on, there’s actually something there wanting some attention.

    Anyway. About your comments. You wrote about what love would have done for you when you were a child and adolescent. Even in the best of circumstances, your intelligence would have isolated you anyway, and the isolation of being weird in a normal-in-the-bell-curve-way world.

    And (as usual) I have a comment about DID. I return to Jung. If he were here, he might say it isn’t even a mental disorder; but, then, he talked to his alts and they weren’t alts, they were (and are) archetypes. I think this is entirely appropriate and is a way of the modern mind making acceptable what is taken for granted by primitives: embodied symbols.

    I was a little nervous about writing a little about what I’ve learned about therapy as a profession and what a few of my personal decisions stemming from that have been. I know many people benefit from therapy. As part of my trainings, I myself have had to go through the psychological testing I’ve administered to others; I’ve had to be in analysis (thank God for that!) and I’ve taken myself to analysis whenever I’ve had nowhere else to go and nobody to listen in an informed way. I know so much that I must have someone older and wiser to turn to, and I am so grateful that there are hundreds of analysts worldwide who fit that bill. But they are perhaps a drying breed.

    And then there are the truly spiritual. One can go on spiritual retreats with Christian or Buddhist religious and stay in monasterys and be listened to, and have quiet and meditation. One can go to these places and be healed, if one is willing. One can get love there, too. But there are also twisted religious to be watched out for, so even there, a person has to be careful.

    I’m rambling now, but my real point is that we just need love in our lives. As you point out, we can get it through blogging. I know that what I’m doing by blogging is putting my real self out there and pretty much asking, “What do you think?” It is one way of reality testing, and also a way of having relationship with other people who are similarly thoughtful, introspective, curious, working on consciousness, working on compassion, etc. Trying.

    And isn’t that all we can really do? Just try. Try to make some kind of progress that feels and is right. Give of ourselves.

    David, this is what you do. You grew up with such a toxic environment, and yet here you are. You’re so smart. You’re kind. You’re witty and funny. You work at being honest with yourselves and others. You’ll humble yourself to do this. This is all good.

    About your mother. This is not me telling you a “should,” or giving you psychobabblish advice. This is me telling you something about me, because I have a mother and father also. I had good cop/bad cop in my family of origin, too. For some time I saw only the bad cop as bad and the good cop as good and in need of simple enlightenment and ‘help.’ Eventually, I came to see that the good cop was 100% invested in the bad cop system. Without bad cop, good cop cannot exist. It was symbiotic and I recall having to assign 50-50 (or 100-100) responsibiilty to both people upholding the system. I still do that mental balancing act, because I will tend to downplay the role of the good cop.

    I wonder out loud here, but is there something needing to be disengaged from Mother? Is that your bridge between the land forms that needs to be jumped off of? Is there something happening there that’s holding you back? I know in my own life I found that. And in recovery research and work, we tell people that the enabler is every bit as much a problem as the addict. I’m sure you know this because you’re so savvy. But knowing it for a long time in one’s head is very different from disconnecting one’s own energetic and even similar symbiotic connections. I wonder about that.

    I hope you don’t mind my commenting publicly like this about your mother. Especially since I do not write about a lot of my own personal life here and am guarded about myself now. It doesn’t seem very reciprocal or fair, but there you have it. I comment anyway.

  • Eve // October 14, 2008 at 10:00 AM | Reply

    Lisa and Irene, thank you (and everyone else who has benefitted from therapy) for pointing out how you’ve been helped by therapists. My brother said one time that even though in-patient substance abuse treatment for people is largely ineffective in long-term positive outcomes, it is still necessary because it gives people exposure to the tools for healing: 12-step recovery, being heard and listened to, being taken seriously, being loved. I remember his comment and I think he’s right.

    But I also know that therapy has its limitations. But we all know that, I suspect. I wish we had lives that didn’t require therapists, that was full of loving, listening, warm mothers and fathers, grandmothers and grandfathers, uncles, aunts, friends, sisters, brothers, shamans, holy men, medicine women. But that’s not what we have. So we do need our helpers.

  • henitsirk // October 14, 2008 at 10:12 AM | Reply

    ((blush))

    Well, I think the political left is really desperate to elect Obama, and when you’re desperate you don’t think very clearly! So they are also trying to demonize their opposition. So much for “the audacity of hope”. But it’s really business as usual for both sides. And isn’t it so much easier to allow ourselves to be distracted by this stuff instead of really trying to make conscious decisions? That’s what we let ourselves think, anyway.

    Oh, how I’d love for politicians to simply stay on the message of “Here’s who I am, here’s what my opinions are, here’s my voting record, here’s my plan for the future” and not “Here’s how horrible this other person is, doesn’t that make you want to vote for me?” I think all the negativity comes, in part, from the fact that our supposed two-party system is not really made of two parties any more. It all just forms a spectrum, which might actually be better for a conscious electorate, but right now it seems to force candidates into desperate measures to make themselves distinctive in people’s minds.

    “We are a culture of orphanhood, and America began as the collective rejected child.” Wow, now I’m going to have to get out my anthroposophy books about America and see what’s there that relates to this Jungian perspective! Great, Eve, just what I need, another reading assignment :-)

  • Lee // October 14, 2008 at 11:01 AM | Reply

    This has been fascinating. I find myself thoroughly confused regarding the issues of therapy. It has never really been a positive force in my life. My sister seems to have a number of mental health issues and drifts in and out of therapy fairly regularly. Over the years I have been the brunt of many angry rants that seem generated by the therapy sessions. I can never figure out why I am the recipient of such anger and why when she isn’t in therapy she wants to be friendly and have a normal sister relationship. Puzzling at best!

    Then there is my eldest son. He was not diagnosed as aspergers till late teens but was always clearly different. His official dx was ADHD for all of his schooling years. We could see his impulse control issues, we could see his lack of social skills, we could see problems with processing anger. We sought out the help of therapists at the advice of our primary physician. They affirmed the ADHD dx and began a course of therapy. 2 years in and there were no changes. I was struggling to pay for the therapy because my insurance only covers 16 visits in a calendar year. I met with the therapist and they admitted to me that they had no real hope of modifying my son’s behavior in any real and lasting way. Also said i should be teaching courses on handling such difficult children. All very nice but mixed in with the gratitude I felt for no longer struggling to pay for a benefit that was not helpful was my intense frustration that there was no real help out there for me, for our family and for my son. Life is indeed a very tangled web sometimes.

  • Eve // October 14, 2008 at 12:04 PM | Reply

    Lee, your experiences point out the limitations of therapy. Your sister’s behavior remind me of some of the theories out about levels of consciousness (in energy psychology, or even Eckard Tolle’s recent best-seller), which provide interesting explanations for how and why people continue to live at such low levels of consciousness. It’s up to us to live at a higher level, and to give generously of the light we have.

  • David Rochester // October 14, 2008 at 3:40 PM | Reply

    Eve –

    I don’t mind at all; if I were overly sensitive or unwilling to hear your input, I wouldn’t leave such a highly personal comment. My explanation of the situation was somewhat truncated, but the way I perceive the situation with me and my parents is that now that I’m an adult, we are all 100% responsible for perpetuating the dynamic. I willingly and deliberately went into business with them, for reasons that both did and did not make sense at the time when I made that decision, but which simply threw us all back into exactly the same situation I’d had with them while I was growing up.

    That situation is changing, but very slowly. At this point, I know I am too fearful, and too wary of other support systems, to jump off that bridge and swim to the other side. I still think there are sharks down there and anyway, I don’t know how to swim and I’ll drown. Then I wonder why the hell I even care about that; it’s not like I have anything to lose, and besides, yeah, the bridge goes to the other side, but it’s crumbling even while I crawl across it at this frustrating snail’s pace.

    I know there’s something I need to be doing, but it’s not clear to me yet what it is. I’m pretty sure that when I do know what it is, I’ll do it, because I’m just that way. I know it involves a substantive disentanglement from the situation I’ve allowed to remain in place, but I don’t know by what means. So for now, I feel that all I can do is learn to watch and listen and step back inch by inch, so that my line of vision will be broader when whatever the thing is decides to show up more clearly.

    Wow, I surely do sound confused. I bet that’s because I’m really, really confused. Not by you, but just, you know, generally speaking.

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